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		<title>Former Oriole Saunders heads to Seattle</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Domenic A. Vadala</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m guessing that last year the Baltimore Orioles spent so much extra time in Seattle (with an 18-inning and then an 11-inning game) that Joe Saunders decided then and there that he liked the place. Saunders, who said he would have liked to return to Baltimore, reportedly signed a one-year contract with the Seattle Mariners [...]</p><p><a href="http://birdswatcher.com/2013/02/08/former-oriole-saunders-heads-to-seattle/">Former Oriole Saunders heads to Seattle</a> - <a href="http://birdswatcher.com">Birds Watcher</a> - <a href="http://birdswatcher.com">Birds Watcher - A Baltimore Orioles Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m guessing that last year the Baltimore Orioles spent so much extra time in Seattle (with an 18-inning and then an 11-inning game) that Joe Saunders decided then and there that he liked the place. Saunders, who said he would have liked to return to Baltimore, reportedly signed a one-year contract with the Seattle Mariners (worth reportedly between $5-$7 million). The deal is not official as of yet (pending a physical), and it might include a vesting option for 2014 as well.</p>
<p>Throughout the off season there appeared to be a mutual interest with the Orioles and Saunders, however Saunders appeared stuck on the fact that he wanted a three-year deal while the Orioles (along with several other would-be suitors) appeared to only be willing to give a two-year deal. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m scratching my head as to why Saunders would go to Seattle. I believe that the Mariners have improved their team year-over-year, but it&#8217;s doubtful that they&#8217;re looking to contend in 2013 with Oakland, Anaheim, and Texas in their division. That aside, it does seem a bit contradictory for Saunders to &#8220;take his talents&#8221; to the Pacific NW after saying through the media that he would have liked to return to Baltimore. The Mariners do train in Arizona, which is where Saunders makes his off season home, although Baltimore is only about 50 miles or so from Saunders&#8217; hometown of Springfield, VA.</p>
<p>The Orioles of course obtained Saunders last August 26th in a waiver-trade that sent Matt Lindstrom to the Arizona Diamondbacks. My personal opinion was that he pitched better than his 3-3 record with the Orioles indicated (3.63 ERA). He&#8217;ll best be remembered for his short time in Baltimore as the first Oriole pitcher to start and then win a post season game in 15 years. Saunders was the winning pitcher in the Orioles&#8217; wild card game victory in Texas last year. Nevertheless pending a physical, Saunders will now be headed to Seattle for 2013.</p>
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<p>Of course now we can start talking about whether or not the Orioles made a mistake in not making a stronger push for Saunders. I think most fans wouldn&#8217;t have minded having him back. Furthermore if a one-year deal for $5 million (give or take) was all it would have taken to get him&#8230;that might make me scratch my head just a bit. However the Orioles also have a lot of pitching depth, just as they did going into last season. Furthermore with the recent (and apparent) signing of Jair Jurrjens &#8211; which for the record has yet to be formally announced &#8211; the O&#8217;s have also probably upgraded their rotation just a bit. Even if Jurrjens doesn&#8217;t make the team out of spring training for some reason, that would mean that someone out-performed him and thus earned his way into the rotation.</p>
<p>For the group that wants to say the Orioles didn&#8217;t want to spend the money to get Saunders, you might be right for all I know. However I would doubt that the franchise would balk on spending $5 million on a guy that they really felt they had to have. I suspect that there are other aspects involved in Saunders&#8217; decision, such as the aforementioned fact that the Mariners train in Arizona. That might sound like a petty thing for some people, and they might be right. However keep in mind that playing for a team that trains in Arizona allows Saunders an extra month of living in his own home (as opposed to living in hotels and/or a makeshift home in Seattle). Safeco Field has undergone some renovations that will make it more hitter-friendly for 2013, but it still remains a pitchers-park. To a guy like Saunders who&#8217;s a solid veteran but was and never will be a superstar, that also makes a difference.</p>
<p>I suppose we can file this under the &#8220;it is what it is&#8221; category. I hope that most Oriole fans will wish Saunders well, because as I said above he&#8217;s the answer to an important trivia question in that he was the first pitcher to win a playoff game in 15 years. Here&#8217;s one other thing; I think that Saunders is hedging his bets a little with the one-year contract. While there&#8217;s supposedly a vesting option for 2014, that type of deal makes Saunders very easily traded in July or even August (as he was last year). So if Seattle is out of contention, Saunders would probably be a prime candidate to be on his way to a contender. Ultimately, all of this is nothing more than the business of baseball.</p>
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		<title>Will Joe Saunders return to the Orioles?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 11:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Domenic A. Vadala</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;re officially in the doldrums of the Baltimore Orioles&#8217; off season in a sense. The good news is that Orioles&#8217; FanFest will occur two weeks from Saturday, which is always a fun event for fans. That aside, one name we haven&#8217;t thrown around a ton this off season is Joe Saunders. The O&#8217;s [...]</p><p><a href="http://birdswatcher.com/2013/01/03/will-joe-saunders-return-to-the-orioles/">Will Joe Saunders return to the Orioles?</a> - <a href="http://birdswatcher.com">Birds Watcher</a> - <a href="http://birdswatcher.com">Birds Watcher - A Baltimore Orioles Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;re officially in the doldrums of the Baltimore Orioles&#8217; off season in a sense. The good news is that Orioles&#8217; FanFest will occur two weeks from Saturday, which is always a fun event for fans. That aside, one name we haven&#8217;t thrown around a ton this off season is Joe Saunders. The O&#8217;s of course obtained his services last season in a waiver trade, and he was pretty clutch for the Birds down the stretch. He&#8217;ll also forever be the answer to a trivia question in that he was the first Orioles&#8217; pitcher to win a postseason game in 15 years when he was the winning pitcher in Texas back in the wild card game in October.</p>
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<p>One of the reasons that the Arizona Diamondbacks felt that Saunders was expendable was due to the fact that he was to be a free agent this off season. The Orioles do have interest in bringing him back for 2013, and Dan Duquette has met with his agent. Presumably, the hold up is in the terms of the agreement. If I were Duquette I think I would be able to afford to be a bit flexible on price and terms. While he&#8217;s no C.C. Sabathia, Saunders was a major piece of the Orioles towards the end of the season. In fact, I&#8217;m not sure that the O&#8217;s make the playoffs without his services, or those of any of the players that came and went through the Camden Yards gates in 2012.</p>
<p>The other part is that Duquette isn&#8217;t going to want to have given up the likes of Matt Lindstrom only to have Saunders turn into merely a rental. That&#8217;s never a good way of handling players, unless of course you win the World Series. However if the Orioles are serious about maintaining their 2012 accomplishments into 2013, it should start with the pitching. Retaining Saunders would be a huge step towards solidifying that.</p>
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		<title>Summer&#8217;s not over just yet for &#8216;dem O&#8217;s</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 12:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Domenic A. Vadala</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>A lot of people aren&#8217;t fond of the new playoff system whereby the two wild card teams play in an automatic game seven in the first game of the playoffs. If you&#8217;re the Texas Rangers this morning that might be your mindset. However even had the game broken differently, I think the Baltimore Orioles would [...]</p><p><a href="http://birdswatcher.com/2012/10/06/summers-not-over-just-yet-for-dem-os/">Summer&#8217;s not over just yet for &#8216;dem O&#8217;s</a> - <a href="http://birdswatcher.com">Birds Watcher</a> - <a href="http://birdswatcher.com">Birds Watcher - A Baltimore Orioles Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More</a></p>]]></description>
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<p>A lot of people aren&#8217;t fond of the new playoff system whereby the two wild card teams play in an automatic game seven in the first game of the playoffs. If you&#8217;re the Texas Rangers this morning that might be your mindset. However even had the game broken differently, I think the Baltimore Orioles would have been happy just to have said they were in the playoffs. Nevertheless as the title indicates, summertime is going to last just a bit longer in the Baltimore area, as the Orioles defeated Texas 5-1 last night at Rangers Ballpark.</p>
<p>Many people raised their eyebrows when Buck Showalter announced <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/saundjo01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Joe Saunders</a></strong> as the starter for this game. Coming in, Saunders was 0-6 with a 9.38 ERA for his career at Rangers Ballpark. Some folks were screaming for <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/johnsst02.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Steve Johnson</a></strong> to get this start so as to avoid Saunders&#8217; apparent struggles deep in the heart of Texas. I said it yesterday and I&#8217;ll say it again this morning; I support Showalter&#8217;s decision. First off Johnson&#8217;s knee wasn&#8217;t 100% (although he was available in relief). However I&#8217;m not sure that an elimination game would have been the best place to give someone their fifth major league start.</p>
<p>Whatever his motives for starting Saunders, Showalter was right again. Saunders&#8217; line: 5.2 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 4 K. There were a few times when Saunders got into some minor trouble, however he always seemed to be able to reach back and get the pitch he needed over for a strike. He commanded the inside corner like a crafty old pro, leaving Texas hitters guessing all night. Here&#8217;s a big key to the game defensively for the Birds: <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/player_search.cgi?results=beltrad01,beltre002adr&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Adrian Beltre</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hamiljo03.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Josh Hamilton</a></strong> went a combined 0-for-8. That&#8217;s huge for the Orioles, who were haunted by those two in the teams&#8217; regular season meetings. You can&#8217;t say enough about the job the Oriole bullpen did last night either, as <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/odayda01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Darren O&#8217;Day</a></strong> pitched two solid innings, and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/matusbr01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Brian Matusz</a></strong> might have gotten the biggest strikeout of the season when he came in with two outs in the 8th and a runner at second and struck out Josh Hamilton on three straight pitches.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mclouna01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Nate McLouth</a></strong> gave the Orioles a 1-0 lead early after reaching on an error, stealing second base, and then scoring on <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hardyjj01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">J.J. Hardy</a></strong>&#8216;s RBI-single. Texas came right back with two on base in the last of the 1st, however they were only able to muster one run on Josh Hamilton&#8217;s double-play. Speaking of good pitching, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/darviyu01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Yu Darvish</a></strong> was all he was advertised to be. He stymied Oriole bats for most of his outing. However in the top of the 6th the Orioles covered the corners with nobody out after singles by Hardy and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/player_search.cgi?results=davisch02,davis-008chr,davis-007chr,davis-006chr&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Chris Davis</a></strong>. <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/jonesad01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Adam Jones</a></strong>&#8216; sac fly-RBI scored Hardy, and suddenly the Birds led 2-1 in what to that point was a pitcher&#8217;s duel. However any savy person probably figured that more runs would be needed to win this one with how the ball can fly in Texas.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/andinro01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Robert Andino</a></strong> scored in the 7th on McLouth&#8217;s RBI-single, and in the top of the ninth Andino followed a <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/thomeji01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Jim Thome</a></strong> walk with a double off the scoreboard in left field. <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/machama01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Manny Machado</a></strong> singled <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/fordle01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Lew Ford</a></strong> (who pinch ran for Thome) home, and Andino scored on on another McLouth sac fly. So going to the last of the ninth the Birds led 5-1. One key in my mind at the time was Matusz&#8217;s above-mentioned strikeout of Josh Hamilton to end the 8th. That meant that the Orioles and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/johnsji04.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Jim Johnson</a></strong> only had to deal with Beltre as opposed to both of them in the 9th. Beltre flied out, however with two down suddenly Texas had the bases loaded with the tying run at the plate in the form of <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/murphda07.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">David Murphy</a></strong>. The baseball Gods wouldn&#8217;t be so cruel as to let this slip away from the O&#8217;s at that late hour, would they? Not with &#8220;Dirty Jim&#8221; Johnson on the mound; Murphy flied out to left, and the Orioles were onto the ALDS.</p>
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<p>There are so many story lines to this game that you don&#8217;t know where to begin. First off it&#8217;s worth saying again that the Orioles were supposed to lose 100 games. However it&#8217;s also worth mentioning that Joe Saunders, who grew up an Oriole fan, became the first Oriole pitcher to win a postseason game in 15 years. And then there&#8217;s Buck Showalter&#8230;who was fired by the Texas Rangers after the 2006 season before coming to Baltimore towards the end of 2010. However both of those guys will probably say that it was a team effort to win this game and move on. I&#8217;m not big on the champagne baths that come with baseball celebrations, however I suppose that the Orioles were due for something like that, especially seeing that they&#8217;re the only team in the playoffs that didn&#8217;t get to celebrate on the field while clinching a playoff spot.</p>
<p>So again, summer&#8217;s not quite over in Baltimore. The Orioles will now play a familiar foe in the NY Yankees in the best-of-five ALDS. Game one is tomorrow evening at 6:15 PM at Camden Yards. In fact, games one and two are at the yard, until the series shifts to New York on Wednesday for the final three games (games four and five if necessary of course). As we know, the two teams split their regular season series with each team winning nine. Someone&#8217;s going to win three more in the postseason. Certainly the Orioles will be underdogs, however the hope is that they can finish what they started in trying to catch New York in the regular season. Actually, strike that thought&#8230;they&#8217;ll try to finish what they started against New York in the 1996 postseason.</p>
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